Re: #121 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe

[Mr Badger]

[Abacus]

S.L. Kanthan
@Kanthan2030 (June 20, 2023)

War propaganda is like COVID propaganda. Spring officially ends tomorrow.
What happened to Ukraine’s much anticipated spring offensive?
What a total waste of life and country.

The only option left for globalists in US/EU is an unthinkable escalation with long-range missiles and fighter jets with (NATO?) pilots.
In the beginning, sanctions were supposed to crush the Russian economy and Javelins were supposed to win the war.
Then it was the Stingers, just like Afghanistan. Then, HIMARS was the game changer.
Then the “88” Leopard tanks for the Nazis. Then Patriot systems.

Just like COVID, it was all lies and constantly shifting narratives.

Putin survived. Russia survived.

The mighty international bankers, their headquarters called USA/UK, and their 30 vassals in Europe… all failed to defeat the Russian Empire. Once again.

All wars are bankers’ wars.

And all war propaganda works the same way — it’s boring if you can think without emotion.




https://nitter.net/Kanthan2030/status/1671177364913676288
https://twitter.com/Kanthan2030/status/1671177364913676288

[anon]

like explaining good pedophilia.

The Israeli ambassador to Ukraine Brodsky tried to explain that the Nazis Bandera and Shukhevych are not criminals, since they are worshipped in Ukraine. So glorifying a Nazi is okey if it's a Nazi fighting for freedom... pic.twitter.com/lVOx1nshvS

— Mats Nilsson (@mazzenilsson) June 20, 2023

And putin is pushing old Soviet propaganda movies made of assembled shots from movies about WW2 made after WW2 and some documentary footage.

Putin Shocks SPIEF Crowd With Gruesome Video of OUN Banderites During WW2

https://www.bitchute.com/video/AoYeHpWCLgGw/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/AoYeHpWCLgGw/

They are all trying to frame "Nazis" for this in Ukraine, and it is obvious to everybody that Jews are behind it. With Putin who is blaming "bad" Jews and covering for "good" Jews (apparently he is expert what is appropriate Jewish behavior).

Putin Says Zelensky's a "Disgrace to Jews"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/R7wRiwfUzbIz/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/R7wRiwfUzbIz/

The only side that is not actively participating in this shit show in Ukraine (because white man is killing white man for Jews) are the "Nazis". Fucking clowns...the lot of them.

Dmitry Medvedev can't agree with Dmitry Medvedev on anything

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3epLr8hdALFl/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3epLr8hdALFl/


More Ukrainian POWs Surrender to Russian Soldiers

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DlTMIkswwTrp/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DlTMIkswwTrp/
REFUSING TO SURRENDER TO UKRAINIAN SOF WAS THEIR LAST RESORT

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qbB0jhrFSWWO/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qbB0jhrFSWWO/
Subtitled Version of AFU Hit by Russian Artillery Is Even Worse

https://www.bitchute.com/video/N0S6wNhWQiDk/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/N0S6wNhWQiDk/
Ukrainian Serviceman Was Left Behind In The 'Offensive' - Captured By Russian Marines

https://www.bitchute.com/video/kLK9IhfNGSqB/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/kLK9IhfNGSqB/
Ukrop Wanted To Throw Grenade At The House But Russian Artillery Beat Him To It

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ewW9c5S8J6yW/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ewW9c5S8J6yW/
Russian Naval Marines Are Clearing Novodonetsk

https://www.bitchute.com/video/iDrnPGyGS5nP/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/iDrnPGyGS5nP/
Russian Serviceman Who Destroyed Leopard Gets Awarded 1 Million Rubles (~$15,000) Bonus

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1tASUqGSDD25/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1tASUqGSDD25/
A group of Russian-mobilized soldiers asks for water at the front.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tvOHoShebf0i/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tvOHoShebf0i/
Ukrainian artillerymen operating CAESAR self-propelled howitzer

https://www.bitchute.com/video/d1FCg4jfwefN/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/d1FCg4jfwefN/
India’s Nirbhay cruise missile - 2nd stage engine doesnt engage

https://www.bitchute.com/video/k9x5m6lAQoqE/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/k9x5m6lAQoqE/
Ukrainian soldiers show off their Russian POWS in the South-East

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ybjozz1pRT6u/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ybjozz1pRT6u/
civil defence information bulletin 1-7 fallout TCV handbook 7 short films nuclear war

https://www.bitchute.com/video/st3U5J6lmDUG/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/st3U5J6lmDUG/
American "Mercenaries" (Special Forces) Operating In Ukraine

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5NIfI9wRPmbU/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5NIfI9wRPmbU/
Story of the fight for Azovstal Steel plant- 'Azovstal was their main fortress

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NEslM43dZ19S/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NEslM43dZ19S/
Wagner Theme Song is the Hit Song of Summer in Russian Summer Camps

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jpZUdF8OIc5K/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jpZUdF8OIc5K/
Zaluzhny Releases New Video To Prove Putin Wrong - Does He Look The Same?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rAzTb4fd0DT6/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rAzTb4fd0DT6/
Only 3 Men Out of 120 In This Commander's Company Survived

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4q5V0LYQhr7p/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4q5V0LYQhr7p/
Russian Coaxial Rotor Ka-52 Survives and Lands After Tail Empennage Completely Blown Off

https://www.bitchute.com/video/putFxPeit9Km/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/putFxPeit9Km/
Russian Forces Inspect Bombed Out AFU Positions (18+)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tFfIebtfgnWu/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tFfIebtfgnWu/
Ukrainian Soldier Makes Jokes About LGBT Troops

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Hw7qWL57nnac/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Hw7qWL57nnac/
This New Zelensky Song Is Topping the Charts

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NkzYZxfdIpM3/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NkzYZxfdIpM3/
Wow - Ukraine Is Being Westernized Really Quickly, Just Like They Wanted It

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DpA4mUYmRvIr/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DpA4mUYmRvIr/
Putin Asked Where's Zaluzhny: "I Know Where He Is...And It's Not In Ukraine"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/x1ekxMXRXiJY/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/x1ekxMXRXiJY/
French AMX-10RC Tanks Recovered by Russian Marines in Zaporozhye Direction

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jNJpJTn7Ox3o/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jNJpJTn7Ox3o/
Russia Shows Other Less Hightech Forms of Mass Mining Besides Its ISDM Zemledeliye System

https://www.bitchute.com/video/u5NHV6x7AOAh/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/u5NHV6x7AOAh/
Lawyer and His Friend Get Mobilized By Commissars On The Street With Groin Strikes

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JVmMw0icDLLd/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JVmMw0icDLLd/
Shoigu Visits Omsktransmash Where Russia Is Pumping Out Dozens of Latest T-80BVM Obr 2022 Tanks

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fl7FfZeaFFZa/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fl7FfZeaFFZa/
Big Hit Turned This M113 TinCan's Armor Into Cardboard

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jpGPIaDGJwZy/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jpGPIaDGJwZy/
Russian Su-34s Hit Ukrainian Positions With Powerful Glidebombs

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NzX8GZb8eTof/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NzX8GZb8eTof/
Putin Shows African Leaders the Agreement that Kiev Broke for Ceasefire

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WrObyUBiF3Tt/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WrObyUBiF3Tt/
SHOCKWAVE DURING MINE CLEARING OPERATIONS

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NbGmLnwGk8gd/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NbGmLnwGk8gd/

[Talos]

Why does Poland support ukraine so much? Don't they know Ukrainians led by bandera killed 130,000 poles in Volhynia? I know the Soviets killed huge numbers of poles aswell and helped nazis invade Poland at start of WW2 but why not be natural as both sides are historic enemies?

[Böhse Tante]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1671077985539989505

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[anon]

Why does Poland support ukraine so much? Don't they know Ukrainians led by bandera killed 130,000 poles in Volhynia? I know the Soviets killed huge numbers of poles aswell and helped nazis invade Poland at start of WW2 but why not be natural as both sides are historic enemies?

Bandera had nothing to do with it. He was in a German death camp at the time.

In January 1942, Bandera was transferred to Sachsenhausen concentration camp's special prison cell building (Zellenbau) for high-profile political prisoners such as Horia Sima, the chancellor of Austria, Kurt von Schuschnigg or Stefan Grot-Rowecki[59][10]: 212  and was kept in special, comparatively comfortable detention.[29][1]: 538 [60] In April 1944, Bandera and his deputy Yaroslav Stetsko were approached by a Reich Security Main Office official to discuss plans for diversions and sabotage against the Soviet Army.[61] In September 1944,[62] Bandera was released by the German authorities and allowed to return to Ukraine in the hope that his partisans would unite with OUN-M and harass the Soviet troops, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

Sachsenhausen was a labor camp, outfitted with several subcamps, a gas chamber, and a medical experimentation area. Prisoners were treated inhumanely, fed inadequately, and killed openly.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsenhausen_concentration_camp

Putin is blaming a person who was in a concentration camp at the time. And this is not even questionable. It is a known fact that everybody agree on.  On 5 July 1941 Bandera was placed under house arrest. He was released at the end of the war from concetration camp. Most of the war he was either under house arrest or in the death camp.

And Poland supports Ukraine because poles know that Ukrainians and Russians and same people. And if they kill themselves, it is good for Poland ruling elite. Also, money from US of A.

Poles also killed Ukrainians at Volhynia
The massacres led to a conflict between the Polish resistance and the Ukrainian insurgency in the German-occupied territories, with the Polish underground responding to the Ukrainian attacks with reprisal massacres of Ukrainian civil population on a much smaller scale.[23][24]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

it is up to discussion how many poles are killed and how many Ukrainians are killed. It heavily depends on which side is presenting the story. And Soviet propaganda had a reason to present a story in a negative light for Bandera. Problem is, Bandera was in a German concentration camp at the time. And Bandera was in the same concentration camp as Stalin son.

Just to be clear, this is facts. Not propaganda...just facts that can be checked from historic documents.

[anon]

Robocop Budanov Reemerges After Rebuilding, Telegraphs ZNPP Nuke Plant Falseflag

https://www.bitchute.com/video/h3iOKmd1qhSw/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/h3iOKmd1qhSw/
Captured AFU POW: "A Real Slaughter, Smell of Corpses, Guts, And Bodyparts Everywhere"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LUCU4KmW4d0Y/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LUCU4KmW4d0Y/
Captured Ukrainian Vehicles in Avdeevka

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PMaCHdr8JX1x/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PMaCHdr8JX1x/
Putin Visits First Electric River Tram In St. Petersburg

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HgE6deZX3NET/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HgE6deZX3NET/
Another Commissar Gets Sent On His Way

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9F7Wf77UjGvl/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9F7Wf77UjGvl/
Endless Destroyed AFU Equipment as Part of 'Counter-offensive'

https://www.bitchute.com/video/QqFHVKdAS6U3/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/QqFHVKdAS6U3/
Yikes: This Ukroid Before And After Is A Sight to Behold

https://www.bitchute.com/video/KS82l6g7Jw8J/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/KS82l6g7Jw8J/
Russian Airborne Capture More Creepy-Crawly Ukrops In Forest

https://www.bitchute.com/video/H7bk1dz0NkjZ/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/H7bk1dz0NkjZ/
Subtitled Version of Comatose Ukrop With Severe Shellshock

https://www.bitchute.com/video/u29JJEqJr7Ez/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/u29JJEqJr7Ez/
March 2023 Footage: Russian Special Forces Destroy AFU Scouts Attempting to Land in Kherson (18+)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VaJLGw9nKnYP/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VaJLGw9nKnYP/
Captured Ukrainian Soldier: "We Were Forced to Advance"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ph5W6I33DFo8/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ph5W6I33DFo8/
Ukrop Infantry Curses Tankers On His Side Who Got Their Leopard Destroyed

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LUAJ7bRhDhkX/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LUAJ7bRhDhkX/
Another Captured Ukrop Gives His Sob Story

https://www.bitchute.com/video/MAJOvcbjuTOK/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/MAJOvcbjuTOK/
Commissar Hit In the Face With a Rock After Trying to Mobilize The Wrong Leopard Driver

https://www.bitchute.com/video/a6tHDp2kHwGX/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/a6tHDp2kHwGX/
2 RPGs fired at close range from Russian trench at Ukrainian tank

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EQLD4KsrUCXr/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EQLD4KsrUCXr/
Ukraine UAV hits russian crew deploying dragon teeth

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NEUefnLzMSAS/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NEUefnLzMSAS/

[KneelB4Zod!]

Why does Poland support ukraine so much? Don't they know Ukrainians led by bandera killed 130,000 poles in Volhynia? I know the Soviets killed huge numbers of poles aswell and helped nazis invade Poland at start of WW2 but why not be natural as both sides are historic enemies?

Bandera had nothing to do with it. He was in a German death camp at the time.

In January 1942, Bandera was transferred to Sachsenhausen concentration camp's special prison cell building (Zellenbau) for high-profile political prisoners such as Horia Sima, the chancellor of Austria, Kurt von Schuschnigg or Stefan Grot-Rowecki[59][10]: 212  and was kept in special, comparatively comfortable detention.[29][1]: 538 [60] In April 1944, Bandera and his deputy Yaroslav Stetsko were approached by a Reich Security Main Office official to discuss plans for diversions and sabotage against the Soviet Army.[61] In September 1944,[62] Bandera was released by the German authorities and allowed to return to Ukraine in the hope that his partisans would unite with OUN-M and harass the Soviet troops, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

Sachsenhausen was a labor camp, outfitted with several subcamps, a gas chamber, and a medical experimentation area. Prisoners were treated inhumanely, fed inadequately, and killed openly.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsenhausen_concentration_camp

Putin is blaming a person who was in a concentration camp at the time. And this is not even questionable. It is a known fact that everybody agree on.  On 5 July 1941 Bandera was placed under house arrest. He was released at the end of the war from concetration camp. Most of the war he was either under house arrest or in the death camp.

And Poland supports Ukraine because poles know that Ukrainians and Russians and same people. And if they kill themselves, it is good for Poland ruling elite. Also, money from US of A.

Poles also killed Ukrainians at Volhynia
The massacres led to a conflict between the Polish resistance and the Ukrainian insurgency in the German-occupied territories, with the Polish underground responding to the Ukrainian attacks with reprisal massacres of Ukrainian civil population on a much smaller scale.[23][24]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

it is up to discussion how many poles are killed and how many Ukrainians are killed. It heavily depends on which side is presenting the story. And Soviet propaganda had a reason to present a story in a negative light for Bandera. Problem is, Bandera was in a German concentration camp at the time. And Bandera was in the same concentration camp as Stalin son.

Just to be clear, this is facts. Not propaganda...just facts that can be checked from historic documents.

Bandera was detained only because he intended to create independent Ukraine. Prior that he was useful idiot for nazis, hise UPA/OUN is behind hundreds of thousand of killed Poles, Jews and Czechs and Slovaks as well. Not only that, Banderowtsi attacked Czechoslovakia even after WWII in naive attempts to reach Western Germany in hope that WWII will continue.

https://www.vhu.cz/vpad-banderovcu-na-uzemi-ceskoslovenska-v-letech-1945-1947/

Rightfully Putin blames Bandera, the war criminal and nazi collaborator. The fact that he was thrown under the bus is just umpteenth example how stupid it is to trust western governments overall. For nazis he was as good against USSR as Saddam was good against Iran for US regime. Nothing less, nothing more. Using his imprisonement as some kind of excuse is nothing but whitewashing of crime he and his followers commited.

Also, Wikipedia is definitely not good source for facts. You should know there are whole brigades redacting the page around the clock. And that's the fact...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

[KneelB4Zod!]

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
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8h
BREAKING PENTAGON ACCOUNTING ERROR PROVIDES EXTRA $6.2B FOR UKRAINE: AP

"Accounting error"

[KneelB4Zod!]

Why does Poland support ukraine so much? Don't they know Ukrainians led by bandera killed 130,000 poles in Volhynia? I know the Soviets killed huge numbers of poles aswell and helped nazis invade Poland at start of WW2 but why not be natural as both sides are historic enemies?

"Helped Nazis invade Poland at start of WW2" is quite simplification. It was Poland who had non-agression pact with Hitler's Germany. And it was Poland who thwartet all attempts to prevent WW2 and thwart Germans befor they even crossed borders to other country. When Nazis invaded Czechoslovakia, Polish army actively helped them and broke through the borderline and occuppied Těšínsko.

https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/regiony/2610233-na-ceskoslovensko-se-po-nemcich-vrhli-i-polaci-za-tyden-obsadili-tesinsko

[KneelB4Zod!]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1671428476409204736

[KneelB4Zod!]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1671206148433752075

[KneelB4Zod!]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1671362559327322112

[KneelB4Zod!]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1671390553181757442

[Talos]

Hezbollah infiltrates, sets up armed position in Israel

The military position has been on Israeli land for weeks, and the IDF has chosen not to attack it for the moment.

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-747059

Seems Hezbollah is attempting to capture sheeba farms without a shot being fired

[Talos]

Israel says IEDs that destroyed 7 Israeli military vehicles in jenin were Iranian made EFPs.

[Talos]

At least four Israelis killed in West Bank shootings, authorities say

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/20/middleeast/israel-eli-shootings-west-bank-intl/index.html

It definitely seems irans plan of flooding the west bank with guns and explosives smuggled through Jordan is bearing fruit.

[Zambeezi]

https://rumble.com/embed/v2sw2sg/?pub=4

[Zambeezi]

https://rumble.com/embed/v2ss7ns/?pub=4

[Zambeezi]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/AEPbkm5sNBQ6/

[Zambeezi]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr Lays Out His Vision for a New Direction for American Foreign Policy


https://rumble.com/embed/v2subka/?pub=4

just like candidate Trump. just like candidate Obama. just like candidate Bush.,,
anti war... 'no nation building' rhetoric that will NEVER happen.
yawn.

[Talos]

Two Israeli police seriously wounded in Golan as police clash with Druze protesting windfarm

Police say they returned fire when a group of protesters used live fire and firebombs to try and overrun a police position; public warned to stay away from area

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-21-2023/amp/

[Böhse Tante]

https://t.me/pandata19/1092

The impact of the massively damaging decisions made to "manage the pandemic" have been laid bare in the 2022 UNDP Human Development Report.

https://pandata.org/who-unsettled-our-lives/

Affecting a composite index of GDP per capita, life expectancy and years of schooling, these stats are used by 
UN bodies and other global actors to classify the world into developed and less developed countries.

"The choice of these indicators was heavily inspired by a capabilities approach that revolves around every individual’s freedom of choice. The richer, more educated and healthier we are, the more capable we are to choose the best life out of a myriad of options, according to our personal values and aspirations."

Jean von Agris has collated some of his extensive work over the past few years into this solid, evidence-based summary of the impact.

.................. 

[KneelB4Zod!]

Video from the location pic.twitter.com/xAnHB5gzvu https://t.co/G698ojAYtF

— War Monitor (@WarMonitors) June 21, 2023

[KneelB4Zod!]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1671546178243108864

[KneelB4Zod!]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1671571552859725830

[KneelB4Zod!]

War Monitor
@WarMonitors
·
1h
Russian sources claim that Ukraine is attacking the flanks near Bakhmut

[KneelB4Zod!]

[anon]

Why does Poland support ukraine so much? Don't they know Ukrainians led by bandera killed 130,000 poles in Volhynia? I know the Soviets killed huge numbers of poles aswell and helped nazis invade Poland at start of WW2 but why not be natural as both sides are historic enemies?

Bandera had nothing to do with it. He was in a German death camp at the time.

In January 1942, Bandera was transferred to Sachsenhausen concentration camp's special prison cell building (Zellenbau) for high-profile political prisoners such as Horia Sima, the chancellor of Austria, Kurt von Schuschnigg or Stefan Grot-Rowecki[59][10]: 212  and was kept in special, comparatively comfortable detention.[29][1]: 538 [60] In April 1944, Bandera and his deputy Yaroslav Stetsko were approached by a Reich Security Main Office official to discuss plans for diversions and sabotage against the Soviet Army.[61] In September 1944,[62] Bandera was released by the German authorities and allowed to return to Ukraine in the hope that his partisans would unite with OUN-M and harass the Soviet troops, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

Sachsenhausen was a labor camp, outfitted with several subcamps, a gas chamber, and a medical experimentation area. Prisoners were treated inhumanely, fed inadequately, and killed openly.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsenhausen_concentration_camp

Putin is blaming a person who was in a concentration camp at the time. And this is not even questionable. It is a known fact that everybody agree on.  On 5 July 1941 Bandera was placed under house arrest. He was released at the end of the war from concetration camp. Most of the war he was either under house arrest or in the death camp.

And Poland supports Ukraine because poles know that Ukrainians and Russians and same people. And if they kill themselves, it is good for Poland ruling elite. Also, money from US of A.

Poles also killed Ukrainians at Volhynia
The massacres led to a conflict between the Polish resistance and the Ukrainian insurgency in the German-occupied territories, with the Polish underground responding to the Ukrainian attacks with reprisal massacres of Ukrainian civil population on a much smaller scale.[23][24]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

it is up to discussion how many poles are killed and how many Ukrainians are killed. It heavily depends on which side is presenting the story. And Soviet propaganda had a reason to present a story in a negative light for Bandera. Problem is, Bandera was in a German concentration camp at the time. And Bandera was in the same concentration camp as Stalin son.

Just to be clear, this is facts. Not propaganda...just facts that can be checked from historic documents.

Bandera was detained only because he intended to create independent Ukraine. Prior that he was useful idiot for nazis, hise UPA/OUN is behind hundreds of thousand of killed Poles, Jews and Czechs and Slovaks as well. Not only that, Banderowtsi attacked Czechoslovakia even after WWII in naive attempts to reach Western Germany in hope that WWII will continue.

https://www.vhu.cz/vpad-banderovcu-na-uzemi-ceskoslovenska-v-letech-1945-1947/

Of course, Bandera was working with Germans "nazis". it is not even worth debate. it is a fact.

Rightfully Putin blames Bandera, the war criminal and nazi collaborator.

No. while Bandera was not only nazi collaborator he volontered to work with nazis. This is a fact, and I am not arguing anything different.

But:
Bandera was at the time in german concentration camp. And that is also a fact. He can not be held accountable for something that was done while he was in prison (concentration camp). With Bandera in concentration camp that is enough of a proof that he could not have committed a crime, and he could not have done it, especially the fact that he was in another place at the time it happened.

I am not going into UPA/OUN, neither who did what in that time in Ukraine and who is responsible. I am stating that Putin is slandering Bandera because Bandera cannot be guilty of a crime because he was somewhere else when the crime was committed.

Also, Wikipedia is definitely not good source for facts. You should know there are whole brigades redacting the page around the clock. And that's the fact...

I agree about Wikipedia, but this is all known facts that were never disputed. This is the reason why I have used Wiki. Neither side is disputing he was at the time in a concentration camp. This is false and defamatory statements about someone in order to damage their reputation; slander.

calumny = the act of uttering false charges or misrepresentations maliciously calculated to harm another's reputation
alibi = proof that someone who is thought to have committed a crime could not have done it, especially the fact or statement that they were in another place at the time it happened:

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Why does Poland support ukraine so much? Don't they know Ukrainians led by bandera killed 130,000 poles in Volhynia? I know the Soviets killed huge numbers of poles aswell and helped nazis invade Poland at start of WW2 but why not be natural as both sides are historic enemies?

Bandera had nothing to do with it. He was in a German death camp at the time.

In January 1942, Bandera was transferred to Sachsenhausen concentration camp's special prison cell building (Zellenbau) for high-profile political prisoners such as Horia Sima, the chancellor of Austria, Kurt von Schuschnigg or Stefan Grot-Rowecki[59][10]: 212  and was kept in special, comparatively comfortable detention.[29][1]: 538 [60] In April 1944, Bandera and his deputy Yaroslav Stetsko were approached by a Reich Security Main Office official to discuss plans for diversions and sabotage against the Soviet Army.[61] In September 1944,[62] Bandera was released by the German authorities and allowed to return to Ukraine in the hope that his partisans would unite with OUN-M and harass the Soviet troops, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

Sachsenhausen was a labor camp, outfitted with several subcamps, a gas chamber, and a medical experimentation area. Prisoners were treated inhumanely, fed inadequately, and killed openly.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsenhausen_concentration_camp

Putin is blaming a person who was in a concentration camp at the time. And this is not even questionable. It is a known fact that everybody agree on.  On 5 July 1941 Bandera was placed under house arrest. He was released at the end of the war from concetration camp. Most of the war he was either under house arrest or in the death camp.

And Poland supports Ukraine because poles know that Ukrainians and Russians and same people. And if they kill themselves, it is good for Poland ruling elite. Also, money from US of A.

Poles also killed Ukrainians at Volhynia
The massacres led to a conflict between the Polish resistance and the Ukrainian insurgency in the German-occupied territories, with the Polish underground responding to the Ukrainian attacks with reprisal massacres of Ukrainian civil population on a much smaller scale.[23][24]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

it is up to discussion how many poles are killed and how many Ukrainians are killed. It heavily depends on which side is presenting the story. And Soviet propaganda had a reason to present a story in a negative light for Bandera. Problem is, Bandera was in a German concentration camp at the time. And Bandera was in the same concentration camp as Stalin son.

Just to be clear, this is facts. Not propaganda...just facts that can be checked from historic documents.

Bandera was detained only because he intended to create independent Ukraine. Prior that he was useful idiot for nazis, hise UPA/OUN is behind hundreds of thousand of killed Poles, Jews and Czechs and Slovaks as well. Not only that, Banderowtsi attacked Czechoslovakia even after WWII in naive attempts to reach Western Germany in hope that WWII will continue.

https://www.vhu.cz/vpad-banderovcu-na-uzemi-ceskoslovenska-v-letech-1945-1947/

Of course, Bandera was working with Germans "nazis". it is not even worth debate. it is a fact.

Rightfully Putin blames Bandera, the war criminal and nazi collaborator.

No. while Bandera was not only nazi collaborator he volontered to work with nazis. This is a fact, and I am not arguing anything different.

But:
Bandera was at the time in german concentration camp. And that is also a fact. He can not be held accountable for something that was done while he was in prison (concentration camp). With Bandera in concentration camp that is enough of a proof that he could not have committed a crime, and he could not have done it, especially the fact that he was in another place at the time it happened.

I am not going into UPA/OUN, neither who did what in that time in Ukraine and who is responsible. I am stating that Putin is slandering Bandera because Bandera cannot be guilty of a crime because he was somewhere else when the crime was committed.

Also, Wikipedia is definitely not good source for facts. You should know there are whole brigades redacting the page around the clock. And that's the fact...

I agree about Wikipedia, but this is all known facts that were never disputed. This is the reason why I have used Wiki. Neither side is disputing he was at the time in a concentration camp. This is false and defamatory statements about someone in order to damage their reputation; slander.

calumny = the act of uttering false charges or misrepresentations maliciously calculated to harm another's reputation
alibi = proof that someone who is thought to have committed a crime could not have done it, especially the fact or statement that they were in another place at the time it happened:

Facts don't stand alone. You wrote Putin is balming wrong guy bcs Bandera was in German death camp. It's fact, indeed. But it doesn't support your claim at all. There's context, there is timeline that led to his detention. Timeline full of war crimes, genocides and massacress. It really doesn't matter if he was imprisoned when some specific massecre occured. It was commited by his loyal followers, worshippers. He forged them and they were his army. There's no need to whitewash him.
He is ultimately responsible for what his followers commited even if he was imprisoned because it was him who mostly created this ideology and put together gangs of armed scumbags. So yes, he beras responsibility in the same way as Jabotinsky berars responsibility for reccent crimes of his worshippers regardless the fact he's dead and gone for decades. At least in my playbook.

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