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Post by UK AC on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:31 pm

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BBC #Skripal hospital documentary, some key points:

1. Doctors suspected opioid poisoning, before Porton Down told them it was nerve agent
2. No medical staff had protection against nerve agents, yet none affected
3. Doctors can’t explain Skripals recovery



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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:34 pm

UK AC wrote:@ShoebridgeC

BBC #Skripal hospital documentary, some key points:

1. Doctors suspected opioid poisoning, before Porton Down told them it was nerve agent
2. No medical staff had protection against nerve agents, yet none affected
3. Doctors can’t explain Skripals recovery



Interesting. In this Amesbury incident they suspected that it was drug-related situation. Then, Porton Down told them (I suppose)...

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Post by M9872367 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:35 pm

Another COBRA meeting in the morning with top officials due to "very serious nature" of the situation.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:37 pm

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Post by M9872367 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:38 pm

If a local innocent British person does not make it, it could be a game-changer.

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Post by UK AC on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:40 pm

Zod wrote:Interesting. In this Amesbury incident they suspected that it was drug-related situation. Then, Porton Down told them (I suppose)...

Aye, sounds like Porton Down team made the doctors 'understand' what the problem was.

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Post by Nuke68 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:54 pm

They need to bring in another person with experience in this to give a second opinion.  
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:55 pm

M9872367 wrote:Evacuated, female apparently. 4th July.


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Post by UK AC on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:55 pm

No Wonder. Only one comment on GLP about this latest alleged poisoning.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:59 pm

Nuke68 wrote:They need to bring in another person with experience in this to give a second opinion.  

How to do tests for chemical agents use propperly: Sniff it or taste it...


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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:02 am

Is something closer known about the allegedly poisoned victims? Like if they were somehow close to Porton Down facility, security services or so?

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Post by UK AC on Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:23 am

Nothing found on the man on twitter. As for the woman's the info found is:

Dawn Sturgess worked as Company Secretary at a small Wiltshire business in Salisbury called Hope Aviation

Hope Aviation Limited is located at Windover House, St Ann Street, Salisbury, Sp1 2dr, England.




Interestingly, on google maps it shows Porton Down is actually nearer to this new location Amesbury rather than Salisbury where the Skripals got affected.

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Post by M9872367 on Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:26 am

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Is something closer known about the allegedly poisoned victims? Like if they were somehow close to Porton Down facility, security services or so?

No suggestions of anything like that. Seems they visited Salisbury on Friday and suggestion they found something that they touched and investigated. Like from a vial or container or syringe used against Shripals or in the preparation. Authorities will be looking for that as maybe it has released agent to the envinment or is at their home. Another person travelled with them and currently shows no symptoms, so there will be that intelligence.

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Post by UK AC on Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:36 am

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Welp. The "unknown substance" affecting the couple of Amesbury a stone's throw from my house is confirmed as Novichok. Fun times.

And one of the cordoned-off areas is literally 100 metres from my house :/

I'm just planning to stay indoors as much as possible. No change there then! But I have to go out to work tomorrow :/ We're okay, just a bit shaken I guess.Odd thing is that it happened about the same time on Saturday evening as we had a 30min power cut o.o

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Post by UK AC on Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:41 am

'It's a CHARADE' Merkel's EU migrant deal DISMANTLED as desperate power grab

ANGELA Merkel's latest migrant deal with other members of the European Union is "a little bit of a charade" to secure an electoral victory to her Bavarian allies, independent political analyst Steven Meissner claimed.

Steven Meissner dismissed the apparent deal, suggesting instead EU leaders would simply ignore the new terms that would see them volunteer to accept migrants to their countries.

Speaking to RT UK, Mr Meissner said: "It’s a bit of a show as we’ve now found out because Poland and Hungary and Italy and a number of other countries have said there is no such agreement.

"What is she talking about? I don’t think this policy was ever meant to seriously be implemented in the first place."

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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:46 am

Daraa:

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Areas of militant presence in Tal Sakhr- Latamneh- alZakat are under Syrian Army fire in northern Hama.



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#Syria - large group of terrorists killed in East Daraa as SAA advances towards Saida tonight



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#Syria - terrorist losses reported in Al Manshiyah neighbourhood in Daraa city including Nusra field commander of the Uqba bin Nafa mosque sector due to heavy SAA shelling



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Post by UK AC on Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:52 am

And now:

Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were being monitored by the Russian authorities in the months before their poisoning, BBC Newsnight understands.

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UK AC wrote:And now:

Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were being monitored by the Russian authorities in the months before their poisoning, BBC Newsnight understands.

[img]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44717835


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Post by UK AC on Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:14 am

'Novichok' pt. 2:

Craig Murray's blog, former UK Ambassador:

I am slightly puzzled by the picture the media are trying to paint of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess as homeless, unemployed addicts. The Guardian and Sky News both state that they were unemployed, yet Charlie was living in a very new house in Muggleton Road, Amesbury, which is pretty expensive.

Both Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess still have active facebook pages and one of Charlie’s handful of “Likes” is a mortgage broker, which is consistent with his brand new house. They don’t give mortgages to unemployed heroin addicts, and not many of those live in smart new “executive housing” estates. Both Charlie and Dawn appear from their facebook pages to be very well socialised, with Dawn having many friends in the teaching profession. Even if she has been homeless for a period as reported, she is plainly very much part of the community.

Naturally, there is no mention in all the reports today of MI6’s Pablo Miller, who remains the subject of a D notice. I wonder if he knows Rowley and Sturgess, living in the same community? It should be recalled that Salisbury may be a city, but its population is only 45,000.

[img]https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/the-amesbury-mystery/






I do however wish to congratulate the neo-con warmongers of the Guardian newspaper for verbal dexterity. They have come up with a new formulation to replace the hackneyed “Of a type developed by Russia”, to point the finger for a substance that could have been made by dozens of state or non state parties. The Guardian today came up with “Russian-created novichok”. This cleverly employs a word that can encompass “developed” while also appearing to say “made”. It also again makes out that novichok is a specific substance rather than a very broad class of substances. The Guardian’s Steven Morris, by this brilliant attempt deliberately to mislead his readers, runs away with this week’s award for lying neo-con media whore of the week. His achievement is particularly good as the rest of his report is largely a simple copy and paste from the Press Association.


[img]https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/wheel-out-the-skripal-story-again/

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UK AC wrote:'Novichok' pt. 2:

Craig Murray's blog, former UK Ambassador:

I am slightly puzzled by the picture the media are trying to paint of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess as homeless, unemployed addicts. The Guardian and Sky News both state that they were unemployed, yet Charlie was living in a very new house in Muggleton Road, Amesbury, which is pretty expensive.

Both Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess still have active facebook pages and one of Charlie’s handful of “Likes” is a mortgage broker, which is consistent with his brand new house. They don’t give mortgages to unemployed heroin addicts, and not many of those live in smart new “executive housing” estates. Both Charlie and Dawn appear from their facebook pages to be very well socialised, with Dawn having many friends in the teaching profession. Even if she has been homeless for a period as reported, she is plainly very much part of the community.

Naturally, there is no mention in all the reports today of MI6’s Pablo Miller, who remains the subject of a D notice. I wonder if he knows Rowley and Sturgess, living in the same community? It should be recalled that Salisbury may be a city, but its population is only 45,000.

[img]https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/the-amesbury-mystery/






I do however wish to congratulate the neo-con warmongers of the Guardian newspaper for verbal dexterity. They have come up with a new formulation to replace the hackneyed “Of a type developed by Russia”, to point the finger for a substance that could have been made by dozens of state or non state parties. The Guardian today came up with “Russian-created novichok”. This cleverly employs a word that can encompass “developed” while also appearing to say “made”. It also again makes out that novichok is a specific substance rather than a very broad class of substances. The Guardian’s Steven Morris, by this brilliant attempt deliberately to mislead his readers, runs away with this week’s award for lying neo-con media whore of the week. His achievement is particularly good as the rest of his report is largely a simple copy and paste from the Press Association.


[img]https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/wheel-out-the-skripal-story-again/

Well said.


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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
UK AC wrote:'Novichok' pt. 2:

Craig Murray's blog, former UK Ambassador:

I am slightly puzzled by the picture the media are trying to paint of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess as homeless, unemployed addicts. The Guardian and Sky News both state that they were unemployed, yet Charlie was living in a very new house in Muggleton Road, Amesbury, which is pretty expensive.

Both Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess still have active facebook pages and one of Charlie’s handful of “Likes” is a mortgage broker, which is consistent with his brand new house. They don’t give mortgages to unemployed heroin addicts, and not many of those live in smart new “executive housing” estates. Both Charlie and Dawn appear from their facebook pages to be very well socialised, with Dawn having many friends in the teaching profession. Even if she has been homeless for a period as reported, she is plainly very much part of the community.

Naturally, there is no mention in all the reports today of MI6’s Pablo Miller, who remains the subject of a D notice. I wonder if he knows Rowley and Sturgess, living in the same community? It should be recalled that Salisbury may be a city, but its population is only 45,000.

[img]https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/the-amesbury-mystery/






I do however wish to congratulate the neo-con warmongers of the Guardian newspaper for verbal dexterity. They have come up with a new formulation to replace the hackneyed “Of a type developed by Russia”, to point the finger for a substance that could have been made by dozens of state or non state parties. The Guardian today came up with “Russian-created novichok”. This cleverly employs a word that can encompass “developed” while also appearing to say “made”. It also again makes out that novichok is a specific substance rather than a very broad class of substances. The Guardian’s Steven Morris, by this brilliant attempt deliberately to mislead his readers, runs away with this week’s award for lying neo-con media whore of the week. His achievement is particularly good as the rest of his report is largely a simple copy and paste from the Press Association.


[img]https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/wheel-out-the-skripal-story-again/

Well said.


worth a read too

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/iraq-inquiry-key-points-from-the-chilcot-report
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Post by b on Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:01 am

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/spy-agencies-flawed-information-saddam-wmds-iraq-chilcot

They lied and millions died.
They are lying again, how many this time?

Time for Peace. it is easy, they just have to stop lying.

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