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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:47 pm



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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:48 pm



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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:51 pm

SouthFront‏ @southfronteng · 5 min.
US To Develop Defense Measures Against Chinese, Russian Hypersonic Weapons


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:29 pm


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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:54 pm



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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:27 pm

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:46 pm

Shephard News‏ @ShephardNews · 8 min.
BAE Systems unveils upgraded 'Mark 2' Challenger 2
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:11 pm



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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:48 am



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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:55 pm

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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:35 am


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Post by Mr Badger on Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:56 pm

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#Russia's heavy hammer #Hunter #UAV is preparing for the first flight to reach the final stage of ground tests in October, developed by #Sukhoi company. According to open data, its take-off mass will be 20 tons, which will make it the heaviest of the currently developed #drones

https://twitter.com/Syrian_Uruk/status/1045671790717087744


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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:23 pm

SouthFront‏ @southfronteng · 17 min.
China Developing New Laser Satellite For Anti-Submarine Warfare


https://southfront.org/china-developing-new-laser-satellite-for-anti-submarine-warfare/

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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:36 pm

Ali Özkök - علي أزكوك‏ @Ozkok_ · 3 min.
#Russia field-tests ‘microwave guns’ that 6th-gen fighter jets may use – major weapon producer https://on.rt.com/9fit



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Post by KneelB4Zod! on Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:06 pm

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SouthFront‏ @southfronteng · 22 sek.
Russia’s MiG-31 Spotted With Possible Air-Launched Satellite Killer http://dlvr.it/Qm2BBN



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